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  They continue to drop like flies

  by suavojr in

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  yes, the jws continue to bleed their young ones, so far in my local kh 3 were dfd, one girl just turned 18 this month and packed her bags and said goodbye to the cult and her cultish parents, another young 18 year old man decided to have a non-jw girlfriend and decided to stop attending and is no longer a witness.

  they continue to leave and wt leaders dont give a damn.

  they dont do anything to help kids be successful and live a healthy life.. .

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  defender of truth

  "Hey I'm mentally diseased so you'll want to stay away from me."
  You're not mentally diseased, you're just too lazy to take a quick peek at someone's posting history before deciding they're a Watchtower apologist..
  Oh, and my name's defender of truth, not 'the Truth'. ;)
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  They continue to drop like flies

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, the jws continue to bleed their young ones, so far in my local kh 3 were dfd, one girl just turned 18 this month and packed her bags and said goodbye to the cult and her cultish parents, another young 18 year old man decided to have a non-jw girlfriend and decided to stop attending and is no longer a witness.

  they continue to leave and wt leaders dont give a damn.

  they dont do anything to help kids be successful and live a healthy life.. .

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  defender of truth

  Villagegirl said:"Holy cow, you are a flaming racist, defenderofnothing."
  Where is your proof of that? Oh, because of what you quoted me saying there? Well, here's the context..
  Rjharris said: " the 'Brother' who snitched and turned me in was a 'Black man.' This shows the power and influence the White power structure the organization has over its membership."
  I wasn't questioning whether there is a racist element to the organisation, or whether white people rule the GB by majority, which I gather you are assuming because of the following comment you made: "Its a white old mens club"... It probably is
  
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  If you think about it, rj seemed to be asserting that because a black man informed the elders that he was telling people, potential converts (Bible studies), that the Watchtower doesn't speak truth in its illustrations and likely putting some off joining, that this 'shows' that the white power structure has strong influence or control over it's membership. Again, maybe it IS an example of black people being brainwashed into accepting Jesus portrayed as white, when apparently they should all have an issue with that. Maybe this is just an issue that I've never considered before. I've had several good friends that are black, and none of them have ever mentioned to me that a white depiction of Jesus bothered them.. Who knows, I'm not a mind reader.Try to bear in mind, I am a white man brought up in the 'Truth'. I have never even had a conversation about 'black' or 'white' culture or thinking.
  I have, though, been deeply angered by stories of racist segregation at assemblies, some being told in the past that 'your people sit over there'!!
  Sorry for the off-topic post, but I had to reply to this Villagegirl said: "Jesus was a Semitic Jew, with a black grandmother in his ancestry. He was not a blue eyed Nordic white man. you idiot."
  A) Which Jesus do you mean? The fantasy figure built up by Christianity, or the historical, 'real' Jesus that probably existed? Assuming that you mean the latter, yes he likely was dark-skinned. Where did I claim otherwise?
  B) Are you capable of having a rational conversation with someone who sees things differently, without calling them idiots and racists for questioning certain statements that seem strange to them?
  C) I do apologise for any offence caused. I am the sort who questions everything, it pi**es a lot of people off in real life, I'll try to refrain in future, and just listen
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  And someone on the previous page said: "Statistics-evidence! Gosh can't we just let our friend say what's on his mind."
  Of course. I'm sorry if it sounded like I was trying to censor him in any way. I genuinely WOULD love to see anything to back up this claim: "The organization.. is losing people of color and in particular it's youth and more specifically its Black youth."
  To claim that the org is specifically losing black youths because of the way it's ran and the literature seems a strong statement to make if it's only based on his congregation, or maybe that's just me. It'd be the kind of info that deserves an article or something.
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  They continue to drop like flies

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, the jws continue to bleed their young ones, so far in my local kh 3 were dfd, one girl just turned 18 this month and packed her bags and said goodbye to the cult and her cultish parents, another young 18 year old man decided to have a non-jw girlfriend and decided to stop attending and is no longer a witness.

  they continue to leave and wt leaders dont give a damn.

  they dont do anything to help kids be successful and live a healthy life.. .

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  defender of truth

  (Post 364 has nothing to do with you, Data-Dog, we're talking about rjharris)
  Listen.. You said: "I would like to smash Stephen Letts head with a baseball bat.... was that outloud?!?!"
  I thought that was an off-topic thing to say, I did not understand why you said it on this thread. So I asked you why you said it.
  I'm sorry, I will just ignore posts that I do not understand in the future. Ok?
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  They continue to drop like flies

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, the jws continue to bleed their young ones, so far in my local kh 3 were dfd, one girl just turned 18 this month and packed her bags and said goodbye to the cult and her cultish parents, another young 18 year old man decided to have a non-jw girlfriend and decided to stop attending and is no longer a witness.

  they continue to leave and wt leaders dont give a damn.

  they dont do anything to help kids be successful and live a healthy life.. .

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  defender of truth

  Thanks, that is interesting.
  I'm not attacking him, I just feel strongly about racism. I don't even think about someone's skin colour, so reading a post that seems to be going on about the difference in 'Black' people and 'White' people's thinking, I get kind of defensive.
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  They continue to drop like flies

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, the jws continue to bleed their young ones, so far in my local kh 3 were dfd, one girl just turned 18 this month and packed her bags and said goodbye to the cult and her cultish parents, another young 18 year old man decided to have a non-jw girlfriend and decided to stop attending and is no longer a witness.

  they continue to leave and wt leaders dont give a damn.

  they dont do anything to help kids be successful and live a healthy life.. .

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  defender of truth

  DATA-DOG posted 18 mins ago(7/15/2014)
  Post 5547 of 5552
  Joined 6/21/2012
  "I would like to smash Stephen Letts head with a baseball bat.... was that outloud?!?!
  DD"
  
  Last time I'm repeating this, I'm sorry I asked.. Why did you post the above comment on this thread?
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  They continue to drop like flies

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, the jws continue to bleed their young ones, so far in my local kh 3 were dfd, one girl just turned 18 this month and packed her bags and said goodbye to the cult and her cultish parents, another young 18 year old man decided to have a non-jw girlfriend and decided to stop attending and is no longer a witness.

  they continue to leave and wt leaders dont give a damn.

  they dont do anything to help kids be successful and live a healthy life.. .

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  defender of truth

  "I would like to smash Stephen Letts head with a baseball bat...."
  You just said that, directly above my post. How does that relate to the topic?
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  They continue to drop like flies

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, the jws continue to bleed their young ones, so far in my local kh 3 were dfd, one girl just turned 18 this month and packed her bags and said goodbye to the cult and her cultish parents, another young 18 year old man decided to have a non-jw girlfriend and decided to stop attending and is no longer a witness.

  they continue to leave and wt leaders dont give a damn.

  they dont do anything to help kids be successful and live a healthy life.. .

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  defender of truth

  What has that got to do with this thread?
  ^ Rjharris, question for you at the top of the page (in case it gets lost in a flood of derailing posts).
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  2014 God's Kingdom Rules PDF!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2014 god's kingdom rules pdf!

  we would like to thank cedars who contacted a friend who sent us the book to scan.

  the sender was promised that the book would be rerurned to them unharmed.

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  defender of truth

  Bttt for anyone who missed this
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  Listening to crisis of conscience as a audio book

  by foreverme in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has really made me wonder how i ever got involved with the watchtower.

  it basically comes down to me just wanting to believe this delusional belief system.

  millions of people wasting their lives in this way is incredible.

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  defender of truth

  Bttt for those wanting to listen to CoC
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  "Crisis of conscience" (Ray FRANZ) available in PDF format in 14 languages

  by Wilfried in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hello folks and friends ands pets,.

  just a little message to remind you that the different versions of "crisis of conscience", by raymond franz, are available in pdf format in 14 languages(*).

  it was a big work to gather.. .

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  defender of truth

  Bttt for anyone wanting to read CoC